Donnybrook
June 12, 2025
Season 2025 Episode 24 | 27m 49sVideo has Closed Captions
Alvin Reid debates with Sarah Fenske, Joe Holleman, Wendy Wiese, and Bill McClellan.
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ASK ALVIN WHERE HE'S GOING TO BE AT AT 10:00 TOMORROW MORNING?
HE'S GOING TO BE BUYING TICKETS TO HERB ALBERT AND THE TIJUANA BRASS.
UNIVERSITY OF MISSOURI, ST. LOUIS.
I CANNOT WAIT.
WHIPPED CREAM AND OTHER DELIGHTS TONIGHT ON DONNYBROOK.
JOINING US, WENDY WIESE, MEDIA VETERAN, RADIO SUPERSTAR.
ONE OF OUR FOUNDERS OF THIS FANTASTIC SHOW, BILL MCCLELLAN WHO JUST GOT A HAIRCUT.
FROM THE ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH, JOE HOLLEMAN AND IN MY CHAIR TONIGHT IS SARAH FENSKE FROM ST. LOUIS MAGAZINE.
WELL, YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WE HAD ABOUT 100 PROTESTERS MARCH UP OLIVE IN PROTEST OF I.C.E.
AND IMMIGRATION DEPORTATION.
YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS D DAY BECAUSE THEY HAD EVERY ACCESS BLOCKED UP AND DOWN THE BOULEVARD.
GOVERNOR KEHOE SAYS BEING PROACTIVE AND SUPPORTS EVERYBODY'S RIGHT TO FREE AND LEGAL DEMONSTRATION, BUT HE HAS ACTIVATED THE NATIONAL GUARD FOR THIS WEEKEND WHEN PROTESTS ARE PLANNED THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF MISSOURI.
MEANWHILE OUR SENATOR HAWLEY HE WANTS TO KNOW INFORMATION ON THE PEOPLE THAT ASSEMBLED THE FIRST PROTEST IN LOS ANGELES WHICH HAVE SEEN SOME DESTRUCTION AND VIOLENCE GOING ON.
ARE WE MAYBE TRYING TO INTIMIDATE THOSE THAT MIGHT GET OUT AND PROTEST ON SATURDAY, OR IS THIS A GOOD PRECAUTION?
WE WILL DISCUSS IT RIGHT HERE, AND I WILL START WITH YOU, JOE.
I THINK BOTH SIDES ARE CORRECT.
IT DEPENDS HOW YOU WISH TO LOOK AT IT.
PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE GOVERNMENT POLICY SAY THIS IS PURE INTIMIDATION.
OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT SAY IT'S BETTER TO BE PREPARED.
IF YOU NEED TO ACTIVATE THE NATIONAL GUARD, IF YOU HAVE THEM THERE, DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO SEND THEM IN OR ASK THEM TO DO ANYTHING, BUT THAT CUTS OUT A STEP.
I THINK WHERE WE ARE GOING TO END UP IS HOW THE PROTESTS END UP GOING.
DO THEY STAY PEACEFUL, CONSTITUTIONAL PROTEST, OR DOES IT INVOLVE, AS WE SAW IN LA DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, VIOLENCE TOWARD LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS?
THEN IT TAKES ON A WHOLE DIFFERENT FACE.
RIGHT NOW IS MAYBE NEXT WEEK OR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW WE CAN SAY WAS THIS TOO EARLY TO ACTIVATE THE NATIONAL GUARD, OR WAS IT A REALLY SMART MOVE?
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
WHAT TIME ARE THE PROTESTS SCHEDULED?
ONE IS FOR EARLY MORNING, BUT THAT'S THE ONE THAT WOULD BE IN ST. LOUIS.
ACROSS THE STATE, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T SAY THAT GOVERNOR KEHOE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT PROTESTS IN ST. LOUIS.
I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT OTHER PLACES OTHER THAN HERE.
ALL THE ONES I HEARD WERE DAYTIME HOURS.
THAT IS A GOOD SIGN.
THESE THINGS TEND TO GET OUT OF HAND IN THE HOURS OF DARKNESS.
I HAVE SEEN EVERY PROTEST I HAD TO COVER, THERE'S ALMOST TWO GROUPS.
THERE'S THE DAY GROUP OF PEOPLE AND THEN THE NIGHT SHIFT COMES ON AND HONESTLY SOMETIMES YOU CAN TELL SOME FOLKS ON THE NIGHT SHIFT WERE JUST LOOKING TO BREAK THINGS.
I MEAN, WE WILL SEE.
IT'S ALWAYS SUCH A WISHY WASHY STATEMENT BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
EVERYTHING ABOUT THE PROTESTS SEEM THEY ARE GOING TO BE FAIRLY CALM IN MISSOURI.
I THINK WE HAVE MISSOURI POLITICIANS THAT ARE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING IN ON THIS ISSUE THAT IS VERY POPULAR WITH THEIR BASE RIGHT NOW.
LET'S RESPOND WITH FORCE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA.
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN MISSOURI DOESN'T SEEM TO BE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN CALIFORNIA.
TO ME.
THIS FEELS PREMATURE, ESPECIALLY AFTER THE TORNADO THAT RAVAGED THE CITY, IT TOOK QUITE SOME TIME TO GET NATIONAL GUARD MEMBERS OUT THERE AND NOT THAT MANY OF THEM.
I DON'T LOVE THAT MIKE KEHOE SAYS I'M GETTING IN HERE THIS FAST.
I'M GOING TO BE PROACTIVE.
WHERE WAS THE PROACTIVITY ON THE 17th.
IT'S GOING TO BE A POPE JOHN PAUL THE SECOND VISIT WHERE WE WERE ALL IN OUR BUNKERS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THE POPULATION OF THE WORLD WAS GOING TO DESCEND ON THE ST. LOUIS AREA.
DON'T COME.
IT'S ARMAGEDDON.
NO PLACE TO PARK.
YOU WILL HAVE TO WALK IN FROM INDIANA, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I'M HOPING THEY ARE ERRING ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE MY AGE DO.
I WILL SAY THAT -- I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER, ALTHOUGH I WAS 10 AT THE TIME.
PEOPLE HEAR NATIONAL GUARD AND START THINKING KENT STATE.
IF YOU WANT SOME, YOU'RE GOING TO GET SOME.
I WOULDN'T JUST MAYBE TAKE A WAIT AND SEE ATTITUDE BEFORE I ANNOUNCE IT, BECAUSE YOU ARE KIND OF DARING PEOPLE TO ACT BAD.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD ACT BAD.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE OKAY, THE FIRST STEP WAS YOU ACTIVATING THE NATIONAL GUARD ON THURSDAY AFTERNOON FOR A PROTEST THAT MIGHT HAVE 200 PEOPLE.
I DON'T KNOW.
I MISS THE DAYS, THE GOOD OLE DAYS WHEN PROTESTS WERE SPONTANEOUS.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?
ORGANIC.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
NOW IT'S LIKE POLITICAL THEATER.
I HATE TO SAY THAT.
I WONDER IF IT WAS ALWAYS POLITICAL THEATER AND NOW WITH SOCIAL MEDIA IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO SEE THE ORGANIZATION GOING ON AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO GET THE WHISPER PASSWORD.
THERE HAVE BEEN QUITE A FEW PROTESTS THROUGHOUT THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY.
THESE HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY PEACEFUL AND A LOT OF BOOMERS WHO HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.
THE BIGGEST ONES HAVE BEEN IN ST. LOUIS COUNTY, NOT IN ST. LOUIS CITY.
IT'S KIND OF INTERESTING TO WATCH THIS KIND OF CHANGE IN WHERE THIS ENERGY IS.
I EXPECT MY WIFE WILL BE OUT THERE.
THAT'S WHY I LOVE YOUR WIFE.
CHECKING WITH MY 89-YEAR-OLD MOM.
MOM, LET'S STAND DOWN ON THAT.
IF YOU NEED BAIL MONEY, I WILL BE THERE.
COULD YOU SEE ME?
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, IT'S RUMORED OUT THERE THAT ADAM WAINWRIGHT MIGHT BE CONSIDERING A RUN FOR CONGRESS.
WHETHER HE RUNS AS A REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT IS UNKNOWN, BUT IF HE WERE TO BE RUNNING AS A REPUBLICAN OR BEEN APPROACHED, THAT MIGHT BE CONCERN THAT ANN WAGNER CANNOT HOLD ON TO HER SEAT WHEN WE HAVE THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS IN 2026.
YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT ONE?
I THINK HE IS ONE OF THE FIGURES IN THE REGION.
HE'S SO UNIVERSALLY LOVED.
I STARTED HEARING THIS DRUM BEAT ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO THAT PEOPLE WERE GETTING -- REPUBLICANS WERE GETTING CALLS ABOUT ADAM WAINWRIGHT AND THE POSSIBILITY OF A RUN FOR CONGRESS, FOR ANN WAGNER'S SEAT.
IT WAS VERY DEPTH THE WAY ANN WAGNER SHOT THE -- THERE WAS THE SHOT ACROSS THE BOUGH BUT LADY LIKE WHEN SHE MENTIONED THAT I HAVEN'T SEEN ADAM SINCE HE AND HIS FAMILY MOVED TO GEORGIA HOWEVER MANY YEARS AGO.
I THOUGHT WOW.
I BELIEVE THAT HE IS A REPUBLICAN.
I BELIEVE THAT HE IS WATCHING EVERYTHING UNFOLD RECENTLY.
I'M SURE IT'S A VERY HEAVY THING TO HAVE SOMEBODY CALL AND SAY WE THINK YOU WOULD BE A GREAT CANDIDATE FOR OFFICE.
WOULD YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
I'M SURE HE HAD A COUPLE OF MINUTES YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THEN HE SEES EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT, AND HE THOUGHT HARD PASS.
MAYBE I WILL LET THIS COUNTRY MUSIC AND THE BROADCASTING THING, LET THAT TAKE ROUTE, AND MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD IF YOU STILL WANT ME.
I HAVE NEVER MET ADAM WAINWRIGHT, BUT EVERYBODY I KNOW WHO HAS SAYS HE'S SUCH A TERRIFIC GUY AND WHOLESOME, AND I WOULD HATE TO SEE ADAM WAINWRIGHT GET INTO POLITICS.
WHAT'S TO BE GAINED?
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS GOING TO BE ANN WAGNER.
SHE'S IN A ENGINEER GERRYMANDERING DISTRICT.
SHE'S CLOSE TO TRUMP, SO THERE WOULD BE NO CHALLENGE.
I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMEBODY YANKING ANN WAGNER'S CHAIN.
I HATED SEEING ADAM WAINWRIGHT GET INVOLVED WITH IT.
WHY IS SOMEONE WHO HAS THE RESPECT OF MOST JOIN A FIELD WHERE YOU HAVE THE RESPECT OF FEW.
WHY YOU WOULD BECOME A POLITICIAN AFTER BEING A BELOVED SPORTS PERSON AND THEN YOU ARE TRYING TO GET INTO COUNTRY MUSIC.
WHEN YOU READ THE REPORT, IT WAS -- THEY DIDN'T SAY IF HE WAS GOING TO BE A DEMOCRAT, OR REPUBLICAN.
I REALLY THINK THIS WAS WE ARE LOOKING AT YOU, ANN WAGNER.
THAT'S ALL IT HAD TO DO.
I'M NOT TAKING IT SERIOUS.
YOU ARE KILLING ME.
IF WE ARE GOING TO SAY THIS IS THIS GREAT GUY AND HE'S WONDERFUL, THAT'S EXACTLY WHO WE SHOULD GET TO RUN FOR CONGRESS.
WE HAVE TO TRANSEND WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW SOMEHOW.
IF ADAM WAINWRIGHT RAN FOR CONGRESS AGAINST ANN WAGNER AS A DEMOCRAT, MY MONEY IS ON ADAM WAINWRIGHT.
I DON'T WANT HIM TO CHANGE WHAT HIS PARTICULAR BELIEFS ARE TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
I HONESTLY DO THINK HE COULD BEAT ANN WAGNER IF HE RAN AS A DEMOCRAT.
WE COULD DO SOMETHING HERE.
I HAVE PROVERBIAL MONEY.
I'M OUT AND ABOUT ALL THE TIME AND ALSO A JOURNALIST.
I HAVE NEVER MANAGED TO MEET ANN WAGNER ONCE.
I REPEATEDLY ASKED FOR INTERVIEWS.
SHE'S NEVER ONCE SPOKEN TO ME.
COME ON.
THAT WAS THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR COLLEAGUE AND DEAR FRIEND RAY HARTMANN'S CAMPAIGN, THAT SHE'S NEVER HERE.
VOTERS DIDN'T GO FOR THAT.
ADAM WAINWRIGHT AS A DEMOCRAT COULD WIN A SIZEABLE AMOUNT OF VOTES IN FRANKLIN COUNTY AND THAT PART OF THE DISTRICT THAT I THINK IT WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
TWO, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE HE'S COMING FROM, I THINK HE BRINGS ENOUGH -- LET'S JUST VOTE FOR THE GUY BECAUSE HE'S ADAM WAINWRIGHT.
THAT'S REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT.
THAT WOULD POSSIBLY HELP HIM OUT.
I KNOW THIS.
HE WOULD NOT BE A LONG SHOT IF HE RAN.
THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW FOR SETTING THE ODDS.
YOU DON'T THINK HE'S A LONG SHOT, EVENED UP ONE, ONE.
ALSO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT UNTIL YOU WIN THE RACE, AND THEN HE WOULD HAVE TO MOVE: TALK ABOUT STAYING SOMEPLACE.
RAMS MONEY SEEMS TO BE STAYING IN EVERYBODY'S POCKETS AND NOT GOING OUT TO ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR.
HOWEVER, THERE'S NOW A REQUEST THAT SOME OF THE RAMS MONEY THAT WENT TO THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS COMMISSION IS GOING TO GO TO THE DOME TO HELP FIX IT UP.
ST. LOUIS COUNTY WANTS SOME OF THE MONEY TO GO TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER, THE TROUBLE ANIMAL SHELTER.
BILL, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?
FIRST ON THE DOME, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE FIRST TWO DAYS OF THE BOAT OWNER'S LIFE THE DAY HE BUYS IT, THE DAY HE SELLS IT.
I FELT LIKE THE DOME HAS BEEN A BOAT.
WE BOUGHT OURSELVES A 35-FOOT YACHT.
AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BIG ENOUGH TO COMPETE WITH THE BIG GUYS.
BUT REALLY IT'S IN THE LAKE OF THE OZARKS, CAN'T GO IN THE OCEAN.
WE USE IT TWO OR THREE TIMES A YEAR.
IT'S ALWAYS IN THE MARINA BEING FIXED UP AND NOW WE WILL GIVE IT ANOTHER 50 MILLION AND 175,000 OF THAT WAS FOR BIRD DETRACTORS OR SOMETHING BECAUSE TWO ENTRANCES BIRDS TEND TO PERCH AND DO WHAT BIRDS DO.
WE ARE GOING TO SPEND 175 GRAND ON THAT.
AND PEOPLE IN CHARGE, THIS 50 MILLION ISN'T FOREVER.
WE WILL NEED ANOTHER 150 IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS, WHICH MEANS NEXT YEAR.
THIS IS A BOAT, AND I THINK WE SHOULD GET RID OF IT.
I REMEMBER THE WAY WE IMPLODED THE OLD CHECKERED DOME, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL TO IMPLODE THE DOME.
LAST VEST AGE OF STAN KROENKE HIT THAT.
BIRDS DO WHAT BIRDS DO DO.
YOU SHOULD BE A WRITER.
YOU REALLY SHOULD, BILL.
IN MY NEXT LIFE.
WHEN I WAS READING THE STORY, I WISH YOU COULD HAVE SEEN MY EYES WHEN I SAW THE PART ABOUT THE ESCALATORS ARE UNSAFE.
THEY TRANSPORT PEOPLE UP AND DOWN.
I THOUGHT WAIT A MINUTE.
WHAT?
THE DOME NEEDS A GREAT DEAL OF WORK.
I STILL THINK THE POINT THAT YOU GUYS WERE MAKING ABOUT KENDRICK LAMAR OR BEYONCE, WE DO NEED THAT KIND OF VENUE.
IT'S AWFUL TO KEEP THROWING MONEY INTO A YACHT.
BUT THE THOUGHT OF BUILDING ANOTHER ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, I JUST DON'T HAVE THE WILL FOR IT.
DO YOU?
NO.
FIRST OF ALL, I THINK A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WHERE I SAID THE REASON FOR THAT DOME LEFT WITH THE RAMS.
NO ONE SEEMS TO WANT TO ADMIT THAT.
THEY GO WELL, IT'S FOR THIS, WASN'T IT?
IT'S FOR THE FOOTBALL TEAM.
STOP.
TO DO IT FOR TWO CONCERTS BUT TO KEEP TORTURING THE BOAT THING, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF THEY WANT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY ON FIXING THEIR BOAT.
IT'S WHEN YOU START ASKING ME TO HELP PAY FOR YOUR BOAT THAT I DON'T GO ON.
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AT HERE.
NOBODY IS INVITING ME FOR A RIDE, BUT FOR TWO CONCERTS A YEAR AND THEY WANT 150 MILLION WAS THE FIRST NUMBER.
WE WILL SPEND 50, AND WE LIKE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY TO THROW IN EACH 50 MILLION FOR TWO SHOWS.
I'M NOT SAYING KENDRICK LAMAR ISN'T GREAT.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT TWO SHOWS.
THEY SEE THIS AS PART OF A CONVENTION CENTER THING.
GOES OVER MY HEAD TO UNDERSTAND HOW.
IN ORDER FOR OUR CONVENTION CENTER DO WHAT OUR CONVENTION CENTER DOES, WE NEED TO HAVE A SIMILARLY SITUATED DOME THING.
I HAVE GOT TO SAY IT.
BATTLEHAWKS, THEY ARE DRAWING IN 12,000 TICKET HOLDERS.
BATTLEHAWKS.
FOR THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW THE BATTLEHAWKS LOST THIS GAME, AND THEY WOULD HAVE GOT TO BE AT THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME AND HOST.
AND THE DEPTH DEFINITELY FOR THE DOME IF 8 PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
THEN IT'S A REAL PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW OTHER THAN -- REAL QUICK.
3 MILLION FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER OUT OF THE COUNTY RAMS MONEY?
I FIND IT SO AMUSING.
EVERYONE I KNOW LIKES TO MAKE FUN OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, AND YOU LOOK AT THE FISCAL PRUDENCE THE CITY HAS SHOWN, AND LET THE RAMS DOLLARS ACCRUE INTEREST, AND I WILL SPEND IT ON A STUDY HERE OR PAY A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION.
AND WHAT ARE YOU ALL DOING?
HOW ABOUT DRY CLEANING FOR EVERYBODY.
WHEN YOU ARE USING THE BIG CHUNK OF TRANSFORMATIVE.
TRANSFORMATIVE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
LET'S FIX SOME POTHOLES AND EVERYTHING.
SPEND IT ALL ON FIXING THE WATER SYSTEM IN THE CITY.
GET THE BIG ITEM THAT YOU NORMALLY KNOW YOU CAN'T PAY FOR.
YOU SHOULD HAVE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO PAY TO FIX YOUR POTHOLES.
YOU SHOULD HAVE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO RUN YOUR ANIMAL SHELTER.
YOU HAVEN'T.
SO NOW YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP DRAWING DOWN ON THIS UNTIL PRETTY SOON THEY GO OKAY WE HAVE A PLAN FOR RAMS HONE.
HOW MUCH IS LEFT?
$3,000.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
YOU WANT SOMETHING FLASHY.
IT'S LIKE IF YOU WIN THE LOTTERY, JOE, YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY ON A NEW SEWER LINE OUT IN THE ALLEY.
YOU WANT TO BUY A BOAT.
YOU WANT TO BUY A YACHT.
SOMETHING YOU CAN SAY HERE IS WHAT I HAD.
I DON'T VOTE FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME TO TAKE OVER RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT.
I KNOW I WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT YOU HAVE COOLER HEADS PREVAIL.
RAMS MONEY HAS TURNED INTO THE LITTLE DOG IN THE GRINCH STOLE CHRISTMAS.
HE'S GOT ALL THE STUFF HE'S ROBBED FROM WHOVILLE, AND IT'S THIS LITTLE TINY DOG.
IT'S GOT DISASTER WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO SAY NEXT?
IN FAIRNESS TO ST. LOUIS COUNTY GOVERNMENT I WAS MOCKING ALL OF THE COUNTY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO WHO DON'T LIKE SAM PAGE SAY YEAH, WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS.
HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY WIN SOME VOTES FOR THIS TO GO THROUGH.
340,000 FOR A STUDY ON POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT OF SPANISH LAKE.
WE WANT THAT 3 MILLION.
MORE SOMBER.
ST. LOUIS PUBLIC SCHOOLS ANNOUNCED 8 SCHOOLS, BECAUSE THEY WERE DAMAGED DURING THE TORNADO, WILL NOT BE REOPENING AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
THIS IS NOT A DECLARATION THAT THEY WILL NEVER REOPEN, BUT ONE OF THE SCHOOLS ON THAT LIST IS SUMNER HIGH SCHOOL.
SARAH, KIND OF LIKE IS THE WRITING ON THE WALL THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A REDUCTION IN SCHOOLS AND POSSIBLY THE HISTORIC SUMNER HIGH SCHOOL?
YES.
THEY DEFINITELY HAVE TO HAVE A REDUCTION IN SCHOOLS.
THEY KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD: WE CANNOT KEEP PAYING FOR ALL THESE BUILDINGS AND STAFFING THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING ALL OF THESE SEPARATE CAMPUSES.
I GET IT, BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE IT MIGHT BE A STEALTH WAY TO DO IT, AND I DON'T LIKE THAT.
AND IF THEY ARE USING THIS TO EASE US INTO THE IDEA OF SCHOOLS BEING CLOSED WHEN IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE FOR THE SCHOOLS TO BE CLOSED, ONE DOES KIND OF WORRY ABOUT THE ST. LOUIS BOARD OF EDUCATION RUNNING THAT DISTRICT.
THEY HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN ON THE UP AND UP.
I HOPE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT HERE ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.
THEY HAVE NEW MEMBERS THAT WANT A CHANGE, AND THEY GOT A CHANGE.
I HAVEN'T CHANGED THATCH.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
THAT WAS PART OF OUR NORMAL NEWS CYCLE BEFORE KDHX AND THE PUPPIES.
THAT IS AN ONGOING PROBLEM.
A LOT HAS TO BE RESOLVED.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN ABOUT BEING A STEALTH WAY, AND I DON'T DISAGREE.
I DO THINK SOMETIMES, THOUGH, THAT CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND YOUR CONTROL ALLOW YOU TO DO SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO AND REMOVE THE PROTEST THAT WOULD INEVITABLY GO THROUGH, BECAUSE EVERY GRADE SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND EVERY HIGH SCHOOL THAT'S GOING TO GET SHUT DOWN -- AND I'M ESPECIALLY SAD TO HEAR SUMNER MAY BE ONE OF THEM, WHAT A HISTORICAL SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL FOR BLACKS WEST OF MISSISSIPPI.
I WOULD LEAVE OUT TOO MANY FAMOUS GRADUATES THAT WERE SUMNER BULLDOGS AT ONE TIME.
SAD TO SEE IT GO.
ANY SCHOOL BOARD YOU LOOK AT, WE TRY TO CLOSE THESE SCHOOLS, WE WILL HAVE EVERY GRADUATE, EVERY PARENT ON US, SO IF THEY DO GET DAMAGED AND DOES ALLOW YOU A WAY TO DO IT, EVEN IF IT IS STEALTH, IT'S PROBABLY FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS DOING THE RIGHT THING.
WHEN I LOOKED AT SUMNER TO LOOK IT UP, JUST BECAUSE THE DISTRICT IS 260 KIDS IN A FOUR-YEAR HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S ALMOST NOBODY.
HOW CAN YOU JUSTIFY, IF YOU BROUGHT SOMEONE IN FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY AND SAY IS IT FEASIBLE TO KEEP THESE SCHOOLS OPEN?
OF COURSE NOT.
HOW IS THE POPULATION?
ARE THE TEACHERS GOING TO SHIFT OVER?
WHAT IS THE SECURITY PLAN?
I DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE YET, BUT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONES ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.
FIRST AND FOREMOST PARENTS ARE PROBABLY ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.
A QUESTION CAME UP IN REGARD TO THE DISASTER ASSISTANCE CENTER THAT IS NOW GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE AT CHAIP'S ARENA.
IT WAS THIS WEEK AND GOING ON FOR TWO MORE WEEKS.
IT'S NOT REALLY CLOSE TO THE NORTH SIDE WHERE A LOT OF THE DAMAGE FROM THE TORNADO OCCURRED.
PEOPLE ARE CALLING THAT INTO QUESTION.
BILL, YOU HAVE A SOLUTION, I THINK.
I WAS THINKING CHURCHILL.
ALL THE BOATS THAT CAN SAIL.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I HAVE THIS NAUTICAL THING GOING ON.
I THINK THAT IF THE MAYOR WERE TO ASK FOR VOLUNTEERS, ESPECIALLY FROM THE COUNTY, TO MAYBE SIGN UP THROUGH THEIR CHURCHES AND DRIVE TO THE NORTH SIDE AND GIVE PEOPLE RIDES, THEY WOULD DO IT.
BILL, I WOULD LIKE TO HELP OUT ON THE TORNADO THING.
WHO SHOULD I GIVE MONEY TO?
I DON'T KNOW.
MAYBE THE URBAN LEAGUE.
BUT I THINK PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO BE INVOLVED.
I AGREE.
I DO THINK PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO BE INVOLVED.
I THINK THERE ARE PLENTY OF WAYS YOU CAN GET INVOLVED AND THE URBAN LEAGUE IS A SUGGESTION.
YOU HAVE YOUR FINGER ON THE PULSE HERE.
THE IDEA OF ASKING TORNADO VICTIMS TO GET IN A CAR THAT'S DRIVEN BY A RANDOM VOLUNTEER, IT MAY BE FINE FOR GENTLEMEN LIKE YOURSELF.
THERE ARE OLDER FEMALES AS WELL THAT I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE GETTING IN CARS WITH RANDOM VOLUNTEERS.
WE ARE SETTING UP A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE PUTTING PEOPLE INTO A PREDATORY SITUATION, THE USHER SITUATION THAT MAYOR SPENCER HAS NEGOTIATED OR SET UP.
FREE UBER RIDES.
AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ACCESS TO THE PHONES THAT THEY ARE GOING TO NEED.
THERE'S TONS OF VOLUNTEERS THAT THEY CAN GET THEM CONNECTED TO THIS.
AND UBER, THEY HAVE A TRACKING DEVICE, AND YOU KNOW WHERE THAT CAR IS GOING.
THAT'S A YOUNG PERSON.
YOU ARE SO CYNICAL.
THIS IS A KUMBAYA MOMENT.
EVERY LIABILITY GOING FOR GOD SAKES MAYOR SPENCER, DO NOT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S -- I MEAN, I KNOW PEOPLE WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND I THINK THAT IS GREAT.
I HAVE GOT E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE THAT SAY WHERE SHOULD I SEND MY MONEY?
I WAS HEARTENED AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT I GOT AN E-MAIL FROM THAT SAID WHERE WOULD YOU SUGGEST I SEND IT?
I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT TOO.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SENDING PEOPLE TO NEIGHBORHOODS WITH PEOPLE THEY DON'T KNOW.
PEOPLE WOULD GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LAST WEEK.
MUNICIPALITIES, WE HAVE 88 OF THEM, AND PUT THAT NUMBER, AT LEAST, TO GOOD USE, AND MAYBE THERE WILL BE SOME KIND OF GAME PLAN DOWN THE ROAD.
ADOPT A THREE-BLOCK AREA.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY A LOT.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CREATE A NEW STRUCTURE.
WONDERFUL STRUCTURES THERE ALREADY.
I'M WRITING ABOUT ONE TOMORROW.
THEY HAVE THE WHOLE THING WHERE THEY SAY HERE IS WHERE VOLUNTEERS ARE NEEDED TODAY.
IF YOU HAVE A GROUP AND WANT TO COME IN A WEEK, THEY WILL SIGN UP FOR THAT AND PUT YOU TO WORK.
OUTPOURING FROM CHURCHES IN WEST COUNTY IS INCREDIBLE.
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S GO TO THE LETTERS.
I WAS DISAPPOINTED AT THE FLIPPANT ATTITUDE TAKEN BY THE PANEL REGARDING THE CONDITIONS OF COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL.
THE CORE OF THE PROBLEM, YEARS AND YEARS OF CHRONIC MISMANAGEMENT AND INHUMANE ANIMALS IN TOTAL DISREGARD.
FROM ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI.
I'M GENERALLY AGAINST PUBLIC MONEY TO PRIVATE OWNERS.
BUT IF THE STATE DOES ALLOCATE MONEY FOR THE KANSAS CITY ROYALS AND KANSAS CITY CHIEFS THERE SHOULD BE A REQUIREMENT.
IF THE TEAMS ACCEPT MONEY, THEY MUST CHANGE THEIR NAME TO MISSOURI CHIEFS AND MISSOURI ROYALS SINCE MOST PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF MISSOURI SEEM TO THINK THESE TEAMS ARE FROM THE STATE OF KANSAS ANYWAY.
THAT FROM JIM SCHMIDTS OF ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI.
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JOIN US FOR LAST CALL.
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